The ‘crooked’ charge against NBC: Why the Donald Trump-Kristen Welker slugfest went off the rails

Trump Ends NBC Interview Abruptly, Decries Media Coverage During Heated Exchange
WISCONSIN — A highly anticipated interview between former President Donald Trump and NBC's Kristen Welker concluded prematurely Sunday after Trump declared he had "had enough" and walked away from the conversation.
The sit-down, conducted in a Wisconsin barn, lasted approximately one hour before rain and tempers interrupted the session. The interview, which took place two weeks before the presidential election, touched on a range of contentious topics including a disputed federal fund, allegations of a rigged 2020 election, and Trump'srepeated attacks on media organizations.
The Final Exchange
The interview's most volatile moment came near its conclusion when Trump launched into an extended critique of the press.
"You're crooked, your press is crooked, and 'Meet the Press' is crooked," Trump told Welker.
When Welker responded that she was not crooked, Trump replied: "You're either crooked or you're stupid."
The former president then ended the interview abruptly. "Sorry. Let's call it quits because I've had enough. Thank you, darling. Have a good time," he said.
The remark drew immediate attention, with observers noting Trump has called female journalists by similar terms in other settings.
The Weaponization Fund
One of the interview's substantive segments centered on a $1.8 billion fund established to compensate individuals who claimed they were wrongfully investigated or prosecuted by the government. Republican members of Congress have criticized the fund.
Welker pressed Trump on whether he would eliminate the program, noting that Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche had indicated support for winding it down.
Trump defended the fund, claiming victims of government overreach suffered greatly. "They've committed suicide. They've lost their jobs. They've lost their families," he said, adding that FBI officials and former officials like James Comey were involved in what he termed improper investigations.
Welker interjected that no evidence had been presented in court to support these claims.
"There's a lot of evidence. There's tremendous evidence. There's nothing but evidence," Trump responded.
The former president ultimately said he would need to review the matter before making a final determination.
Election Integrity Claims
Throughout the interview, Trump repeated his assertion that the 2020 election was "rigged," a claim he has made consistently since losing to President Joe Biden.
When Welker challenged him to provide evidence, Trump offered a dismissive reply.
"All I have to do is look," he said.
"It's not evidence," Welker responded.
Trump again insisted the election was compromised and suggested similar issues were occurring in California.
Foreign Policy and Campaign Promises
The conversation also addressed Trump's previous pledge to end foreign wars. Welker noted a 2024 campaign statement in which Trump said: "Under Trump, we will have no more wars, no more disruptions, and we will have prosperity and peace for all."
Trump disputed the characterization. "I didn't guarantee no war," he said. "Why would I have built the strongest military in the world?"
The interview covered additional topics including Iran, the economy, and border security before its contentious conclusion.
Background on the Interview
Welker noted she had interviewed Trump numerous times, including a high-stakes session at his invitation two weeks before the election. The NBC host described the challenge of balancing thorough questioning with allowing guests to express themselves without constant interruption.
The source material noted that Welker's persistence did yield results, particularly when she pressed on the weaponization fund. However, the final minutes of the interview devolved into overlapping exchanges, with both participants talking over one another repeatedly.
The interview, which made headlines for its abrupt ending, will likely fuel ongoing debates about media coverage of the former president and his interactions with journalists.

